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Were innocent dogs killed?Pit bull advocates wonder if city has put down misidentified dogsPeter Marcus, DDN Staff WriterTuesday, October 13, 2009 | |
Pit bull advocates would like to know just how many innocent dogs have been killed by the city simply because the dogs were wrongly identified as being part of the banned breed.
Suggesting that hundreds of innocent dogs may have been killed by the city, advocates are calling for an immediate re-evaluation of the city’s controversial ordinance.
At the center of the debate is a recent case in which an administrative judge ruled that animal control officers wrongly labeled a boxer-mix as a pit bull. Three so-called experts with Denver Animal Care and Control had labeled Kevin O’Connell’s dog Dexter a pit bull. But O’Connell’s own experts — American Kennel Club judges and professional dog handlers — testified last week that Dexter was in no way a pit bull.
The ruling was a victory for O’Connell and Dexter — but it came with a price. The owner will spend thousands of dollars in legal and city fees by the time all his bills are paid — all for an error on the city’s part. He will even need to pay boarding fees for the 10 days his dog was locked up — during which time Dexter developed kennel cough just from being inside the shelter.
While O’Connell was fortunate enough to have the money to fight for his dog, many are not, pointed out Jennifer Edwards, founder of the Wheat Ridge-based Animal Law Center and O’Connell’s lead attorney. She and her organization believe hundreds of dogs wrongly identified as pit bulls may have already been killed by the city or are currently sitting on “pit bull row.”
“It desperately needs to be addressed,” said Edwards. “I am positive that there are potentially hundreds, if not thousands of dogs that are similarly situated to Dexter, and I think that we need to call into question Denver’s procedures as far as their breed recognition and determination of these prohibited breeds.”
System defended
Doug Kelley, director of animal control, defended the system yesterday, arguing that the appeals process is proof that it works.
“The administrative hearing process is there, it’s designed to allow owners to appeal,” he said. “That process worked in this case — the dog, upon further information, was found not to be a pit bull. So, that’s why the process is there.”
Kelley also defended the training animal control officers receive in order to label a dog.
The training is actually a voluntary program that animal control officers must opt into. The checklist to determine if a dog is a pit bull is almost entirely physical characteristics, such as lips, eye color and shoulders. If a dog matches the majority of criteria for a pit bull, then the dog is a pit bull in the eyes of city officials.
Critics of the system, however, point out that there are dozens of traits that can be applied to several breeds. In many cases, the evaluators are unable to agree on several of the criteria.
Is ban effective?
While Kelley defends the system his department uses to determine breed, he remains unclear about the effectiveness of the ban itself — a topic he has been unclear about for at least the past four years.
“It’s impossible to answer that question,” he says. “On the one hand, we haven’t had any maulings or fatalities involving pit bull bites, but on the other hand we continue to bring more pit bulls in.”
There actually hasn’t been a serious pit bull mauling in Denver since the 1989 mauling of Rev. Wilbur Billingsley, who was left with more than 70 bites and two broken legs. The incident resulted in the City Council banning pit bulls.
In that time, however, a Rottweiler-mix mauled an 11-month-old to death, according to a Westword report by Jared Jacang Maher. Rottweilers are legal in Denver.
Denver has killed nearly 3,500 dogs believed to be pit bulls. But in that time there has never been an audit of the ban to determine if it has been a success.
Misidentifications
Toni Phillips, director of Mariah’s Promise Animal Sanctuary, an animal rescue group in Divide that has rescued more than 200 dogs from Denver deemed to be pit bulls, says she knows of several dogs that walked through her doors that were in no way pit bulls. Many were later found to be bulldogs or boxer mixes, she said. Some even came with original papers from licensed breeders stating that the dog was a purebred of a different breed. Owners simply didn’t have the money or resources to fight the city, said Phillips.
“There’s a lot of people who have a hard time identifying and saying that they are for sure a pit bull,” she said. “I mean, not even the vets — they won’t even do that, I won’t even do that and I’ve been doing this 20 years.”
The majority of city officials — including Mayor John Hickenlooper — support Denver’s ban. Councilwoman Carla Madison is the lone voice on Council, proposing an ordinance change that would allow pit bulls if they are permitted. The permitting process would include temperament testing and require additional fees and insurance coverage.
But she stands alone, facing an uphill battle with little support. Madison hopes this latest discussion over the city’s ban will help her cause.
“It shows that the city’s process isn’t bulletproof,” she said. “It opens up a lot of questions.”
Lawsuit
Three former Denver residents have filed a lawsuit to overturn the ban. The group hopes the city will look for a compromise as it is facing a $120 million budget shortfall and likely won’t want to spend money defending a costly lawsuit.
In the meantime, however, the Animal Law Center is looking into a legal course of its own.
“Stay tuned,” said Edwards. “The Animal Law Center is definitely hot on the trail to doing something about these very unjust and unconstitutional procedures.”
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| Clay @ 2009-10-13 01:34:21 | Any dog killed simply due to Breed/type/look IS an innocent dog!
Google "How does Denver identify a dog as a "pitbull"?" to see the Pit Bull Evaluation form used by the Denver "experts"
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| myra @ 2009-10-13 05:50:07 | Peter Marcus,
Thank you for asking the question if Denver has killed innocent dogs.
We all know the answer: YES, because even if the dogs were identified "correctly" as pit bulls - they were still innocent - except of their genetics, which these dogs had no control over.
And the fact that Denver "experts" thought for a sinlge second that very Boxer-looking Dexter was a pit bull shows how truly incompetent the are |
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| striker @ 2009-10-13 05:53:01 | Doug Kelley, director of animal control, defended the system yesterday, arguing that the appeals process is proof that it works. ------
My lord, what a crock! The system works because people have to spend thousands of dollars to prove Denver's "experts" wrong !!!!
What about the people who don't have thousands of dollars and can't find real experts in time to save their dogs?
How's that system working for them Mr. Kelley?????
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| Bully Bob @ 2009-10-13 06:22:06 | It sounds like the appeal process only works if you have thousands of dollars to spend on the appeal. Most experts cannot identify a pit bull.. as far as me I own 3 pit bulls... I am not a thug as Mr. Sing as narrow mindly called all pit bulls... I am a retired Navy Supply Corp officer and I trully resent being classified as a thug. That is just another form of discrimination .. I wish the residents of Denver good luck in getting this stupid law revoked. The only sensible law is a dangerous dog law.. which would incompass all breeds. |
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| myra @ 2009-10-13 06:25:14 | yep, you're so right Louis S - kill the pit bulls and leave all the gangs, meth, crank, cocaine, illegal guns , bombs and armed robbers on dog fighters on the street,
Wow, I feel safer already.
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| Robin Benit @ 2009-10-13 06:28:36 | Holy smokes, the pyschos are up early this morning
Thanks for your imput Jade and Louis,--- it only proves once again that it is not the pit bulls we really need to be afraid of.
And they call us "pit bull nutters" !! |
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| Bully Bob @ 2009-10-13 06:56:39 | Actually Mr. Sing dog fighting is on the decrease. Now thanks to Mr Vicks dog fighting is a felony in all 50 states and even get caught watching a fight is a major misdeamenor. Yes it is to bad that Mike Vicks is getting the breaks he has... but I am sure his karma is coming a back to him.. He once had over 100 million dollars and is now bankrupt. He makes one slip up and back to prison he goes. Many people in the Philadelphia region absolutely hate him and the Phil Eagles. Also most dog fighters that get caught do not have the means to hire a good lawyer and will do a lot more prison time than Mike Vicks. |
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| Robin Benit @ 2009-10-13 09:46:53 | Uh, actually PHD - not only is Denver killing innocent dogs that may or may not be pit bulls - but it has DONE nothing to reduce serious dog attacks as Denver has the HIGHEST RATE OF DOG BITE HOSPITALIZATIONS IN THE STATE. ----- So dead dogs, owners having to spend thousands of dollars to keep their dogs from being killed - and people in Denver hospitalized at a greater rate than anywhere else in Colorado.
No blog (dogsbites.org) is going to change that! |
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| JPT @ 2009-10-13 09:52:10 | The trolls from Dogsbite are here. Lovely. All credibility and common sense just went out the window; name calling begins now. If you don't agree with the ban, you're a "pit nutter" or a dog fighter or a backyard breeder. Yes, that's right, even the myriad people in rescue, even the CDC, even the ASPCA--they're all dog fighters, because they're against breed bans. It has nothing to do with the fact that Denver has the highest dog bite hospitalization rate in the state despite their ban. It has nothing to do with the fact that innocent family pets are being killed for no reason except their looks. It has nothing to do with the expense to enforce the ban. Nope, we just like to fight dogs. And Louis S., the term "pit bull" is so vague, you cannot simply say that all "pit bulls" are fighting dogs/killers. Most "pit bulls" are just medium-sized mutts with short fur. They're not being killed by Denver because of their behavior--they're getting killed by Denver because they are medium-sized and have short fur. You really think a ban is stopping dog fighters, whose dogs die in fights all the time anyway? They just go out and buy more. Look to the UK, where "pit bulls" are banned. They've seen an increasing number of dog bite hospitalizations, thugs use dogs to intimidate more than ever, and legal breeds like mastiffs and Akitas are mauling and killing people over there. Bans don't solve the real problem: irresponsible owners, thugs, drug dealers and criminals who have no business owning any dog at all. |
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| Peter @ 2009-10-13 09:54:56 | The issue that is never discussed here is training. A dog's behavior is so closely linked to how and the level of training. That is what the city should be exploring and could find an easy solution with pet owners. I believe that the breed ban is Wrong and killing dogs because they are Pit bulls stinks of organized murder. They are conscious animals with some level of complex thinking. Would we Kill a child that acts out and harms someone? |
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| JPT @ 2009-10-13 10:12:24 | Oh, and Louis S., here's a lesson in economics. If you cut supply (i.e. a breed ban), yet you still have demand (dog fighters who want dogs), then what happens? Pit bulls become a very expensive black market item. It actually is profitable to breed and sell pit bulls. One could make the argument that those who support a ban on pit bulls are actually pit bull breeders who are looking to increase their profit margin. Prohibition/bans have never worked, and never will. It's much easier to regulate human behavior, and to enforce those laws. Dog fighting is illegal, and we can and should prosecute dog fighters. Vick got off easy for the same reason celebrities get off easy after seriously injuring or killing someone--they're celebrities. Our culture apparently values football and reality shows more than humane treatment of animals. That's really sad. But what are you doing about it? I see you spending all your energy supporting the Denver ban, supporting the punishment of innocent families and the deaths of their harmless mutts. Why aren't you protesting against Vick? Why aren't you rescuing the victims in all this, the dogs? Why aren't you supportive of humane education, reasonable and effective public safety measures, and responsible pit bull ownership? Your stereotypes, your hatred, and your fear only makes pit bulls that much more desirable to young punks. They don't want a normal, boring family dog--they want a "vicious killer" that will intimidate and scare people. Think before you speak. You're playing patsy for the criminals and thugs. |
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| Fayclis @ 2009-10-13 10:56:39 | Firstly the sub head line is incorrect. Why not call the people that fight this bigoted, discriminating law Animal Advocates? After all it is a fact that many mixes are killed .
Dogs are being RIPPED out of responsible loving homes, taken and KILLED for NO reason other then how they LOOK. There is something VERY WRONG with that.
Dog bites are UP in Denver because the City does not make IRRESPONSIBLE dog owner's pay.
Why should Denver tax payers have to hire a lawyer, pay "jail" fees and court costs to SAVE GOOD DOGS?
Denver's "system" is a total and utter failure and ANY place their profiles and discriminates, based on looks, is darconian and nothing less than a WTICH HUNT.
OH and for those that are reading the MANY posts from the "dogsbite" group of fanatics LOOK UP "EXPOSING DOGSBITE". They are in actually a LOBBY GROUP for BSL. You will know then by calling ANY person who defends the slaughter of innocent dogs by calling them "pit nutters".
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| Sarah @ 2009-10-13 11:18:57 | Louis Sing, you seemed very convinced of your position. I have done the research so I can tell you your wrong but I would like to here what your sources. And don't say dogsbite.org because everyone knows they are a hate site using progoganda and misquoting valid studies to try and farther there "mission". |
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| Bully Bob @ 2009-10-13 11:44:59 | Mike Vicks is not rolling is cash... his contract was for 1.6 million... hardly the 113 million dollar contract he had before getting caught... as far as him being a star TO has a show also and is not a huge star. |
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| D @ 2009-10-13 11:58:39 | Oh go away Sing or whoever you are...pathetic racist. Ban big mouths |
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| Linda H @ 2009-10-13 12:03:29 | The system is not working if it costs thousands of dollars for the owner of a dog that isn't a pitbull to appeal. And it isn't working if good-tempered family pet pitbulls are being executed because of the way they look. I would feel terribly betrayed by my government if it killed and innocent family member of mine. |
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| Kirsten Silven-Hoell @ 2009-10-13 12:07:29 | This just cements that I would NEVER move to Denver (or even visit the city or state of Colorado) as long as this ridiculous ban is in place! It is the canine equivalent of Nazi Germany!!! |
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| Social Mange @ 2009-10-13 14:39:01 | Denver's law is unfounded, unjust, vague, shoddy and legislates people into second-class citizenship based on the property they own - their dogs. It has unjustly killed thousands of innocent dogs that had done no wrong. Shame on the callous Denver politicos who think they can climb the ladder on the backs of dead dogs and the rights of responsible dog owners. |
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| Ayja @ 2009-10-13 14:39:14 | The fact is that there exists a pit bull ban in Denver. Whether you like that or you don't, if you live in Denver or you move to Denver and you have a dog that looks like a pit bull you will have to go through a certain process to prove that your dog is not a pit bull. If you don't like it then you don't need to be in Denver or you can get a different dog. I support the ban on pit bulls and I wish it went further and kept all of the fighting breeds out of Denver and I know that 90% of the people in Denver feel the same way. The few that feel they have some kind of right to own these dogs are a tiny minority, albeit a very vocal one. |
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| Taryn @ 2009-10-13 14:56:16 | "The trolls from Dogsbite are here. Lovely. All credibility and common sense just went out the window; name calling begins now. If you don't agree with the ban, you're a "pit nutter" or a dog fighter or a backyard breeder. "
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Really? I'm a vet and I absolutely love Dogsbite.org because they are the only site that I know of that presents a concise collection of breed-specific attack information. Yes, there are some angry people there and some that make broad generalizations, but the vast majority are individuals, like myself, that recognize that there is a breed specific problem in this country and wish to address that. Dogsbite is definitely FOR breed specific legislation and they don't mince words about it (so I'm not sure why any "exposure" of them as such is necessary), but it is a valuable, and in my opinion, very rational site. |
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| Clay @ 2009-10-13 16:12:43 | Re Dogsbite
Google
"When a quest for vengeance becomes dangerous"
Comment by Canine Fatality Investigator
".The author is not remotely interested in accuracy-I have sent several comments correcting 'facts' from having been on scene-and they never appear.... Dogbites is nothing more than a hate fueled site with a clear agenda to warp the truth and destroy a breed of dog based on the authors personal feelings."
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| Clay @ 2009-10-13 16:21:05 | If you`re really a Vet Taryn,then you should be aware of the AVMA
Statement
"..In contrast to what has been reported in the news media, the data contained
within this report CANNOT be used to infer any breed-specific risk for dog
bite fatalities (e.g., neither pit bull-type dogs nor Rottweilers can be said to be
more “dangerous� than any other breed based on the contents of this report). To
obtain such risk information it would be necessary to know the numbers of each
breed currently residing in the United States. Such information is not available"
and the CDC Statement
"...Why debate what the experts have already concluded?
THERE IS NO SCIENTIFICALLY VALID EVIDENCE AND NO REASONABLE
ARGUMENT TO SUPPORT BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION...."
re the oft cited CDC Study.
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| Taryn @ 2009-10-13 18:29:35 | The AVMA's public position on pit bulls and fighting dogs is of little interest to me and based on little other than a desire to stay out of the entire equation (similar to the various medical associations' refusal to issue a position on gun ownership, really). What I can tell you is that there are specific guidelines for handling and housing of fighting breeds within most veterinary hospitals and all veterinary schools - clearly there is a recognition, if not an admittance, that these dogs are not really like most other breeds. At the end of the day, dearth of statistics doesn't invalidate the argument.
But, leaving the human-aggression argument alone, my primary issue with pit bulls is the horrific damage they do to other animals. I've practiced for 22 years and, in that time, I've seen more pit bull attacks on other animals (dogs, particularly) than all other breeds combined by a factor of at least 5 (meaning that for every attack by a breed that wasn't a pit there were at least 5 attacks by pits). The injuries are always staggering as are the costs. It is extremely hard to witness firsthand the damage done by this breed (and related ones) and not call it a "problem". |
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| Chewy @ 2009-10-13 18:29:37 | I went to the softball field the other day, and this old Pit Bull starting licking me. Oh, I forgot, they are suppose to viciuos. Funny thing is of the few mutts I own, its my cttledog mix who is most aggressive. Banning Pit Bulls is similar to getting a boat and sending a certain race back to their country. How many Counties have this ban? Not many, just the ones that do not like dogs!!! |
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| Chewy @ 2009-10-13 18:30:03 | I went to the softball field the other day, and this old Pit Bull starting licking me. Oh, I forgot, they are suppose to viciuos. Funny thing is of the few mutts I own, its my cttledog mix who is most aggressive. Banning Pit Bulls is similar to getting a boat and sending a certain race back to their country. How many Counties have this ban? Not many, just the ones that do not like dogs!!! |
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| Clay @ 2009-10-13 18:44:26 | Taryn,
There is no National Bite Registry for dog attacks on humans and there is no National Bite registry for dog on dog attacks.
And 'pit bulls' do not cause injuries unlike other dogs.
I suggest you spend a little less time on DB and a little more time on NCRC
So save it.
Anecdotes are not evidence of anything.
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| Clay @ 2009-10-13 18:54:45 | And BTW Taryn
We`ve had a dog killed by a Golden Retriever.
If we`re going to start banning dogs based on dog on dog aggression and anecdotes,then that`s a real Breed that I`d like banned based on emotion.
But dogs aren`t the problem,humans are.
'pit bull'.... is not a Breed.
And that`s what this story is about.
They`re killing dogs simply due to looks,not behavior.
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| myra @ 2009-10-13 22:14:08 | Taryn, in your 22 year in veterinary medicine, do you ever treat a dog without talking to the owner? Don't you ask owners what behaviors the dogis showingt that prompted a visit to your office? Or do you say - oh well, it is a Boxer, no need to talk to the owner, the dog must have cardiomyopathy?
For a vet to talk about breeds and aggression and NOT even mention the owners and the influence they have over a dog's behavior is a vet I would never take my dogs to. |
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| Team Pit-a-Full @ 2009-10-14 00:59:58 | Again, Peter asks the hard nose questions and the city fathers fail to reply. They send their puppet (aka Doug Kelley) in with canned response.
The best course of action for the city of Denver is a new government... and that the new government have some sort of logic and real sense of justice.
Hickenlooper, Brown, Fatz and the rest of "Our Gang"... go back to 1955 where you belong.
Chef David
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| Clay @ 2009-10-14 09:41:15 | You`re but ONE Vet Taryn and the Veterinary Community does not support BSL.
Perhaps it`s time for you to retire.
Laws should not be passed on anecdotal "evidence"
Spend some time on National Canine Research Council ie
"Do Certain Breeds of Dogs Inflict Injuries Different from Other Breeds?
No breed or type of dog has a particular method of attack or inflicts an exclusive type of injury. Claims that one breed of dog inflicts injuries unlike other breeds have no merit."
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| JPT @ 2009-10-14 13:20:00 | Taryn says: "Pit bulls (or pit bull-type dogs, if you really need to head down Semantics Lane) hold and shake (most breeds bite and release)..." All I can assume, Taryn, is that you have little to no experience with any other type of dog except "pit bull" types. Have you ever played "tug" with a puppy of any breed? Have you ever given a stuffed animal to a dog of any breed? If you had, you would have witnessed plenty of shaking and thrashing (and some serious stuffy disembowlment, too). I have fostered and handled dogs of all breeds in my 20 years of work as a foster home and as a dog handler at my local animal shelter. Liek you, I've spent a lot of time with dogs, but it seems I know a little more about dog behavior. The manner in which a dog bites is not specific to a particular breed or type. All dogs can bite and thrash; all dogs can bite and hold; all dogs can bite and release. It depends on the individual dog's motivation (reasons for biting). And this is all beside the point, because a recent study by Victoria Voith, DVM, of the Western University of Health Sciences has shown that vets and animal shelters only correctly identify a dog's primary breed 25% of the time. So it's highly likely that the dogs you're identifying as "pit bulls" probably aren't really "pit bulls" after all. (Sort of like what Denver has just discovered.) I'd also like to know how you learned that the dogs you are treating were injured by "pit bulls." I would expect that your clients bring their injured dog into the office and say "A pit bull attacked it." Right? How do your customers know that the attacking dog was a "pit bull"? We all know how difficult it is to identify such dogs. To the average person, any dog that bites is a "pit bull." So of course, they're going to be very upset about the "pit bull attack" on their dog, when the perpetrator could actually have been a Boxer-mix, mastiff, Lab, or who knows what else. Did you ever stop to wonder how you "know" what you claim to know? How much do you know about confirmation bias? Also, I find your comment to Clay regarding the Golden attack on his dog extremely offensive, and downright appalling and insensitive from someone who calls herself a vet. If he brought his dog in to your practice and said "A Golden attacked it," would you find that, in your own words, "irrelevant"? Or would you perhaps think, "That's ridiculous. I bet a pit bull was really responsible for this"? |
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| Roofy Martineez @ 2009-10-15 14:08:23 | If Taryn is unaware that "bite and shake" is a universal behavior among ALL Canids, then I would call into question his/her credentials!! Sorry Taryn, ALL Canids practice "bite and shake" behavior, it is NOT specific to any breed or type of dog. The fact that Taryn actually sees dogsbite.org as a credible source of information also speaks volumes about his/her utter lack of knowledge on the subject matter. Taryn should list his/her practice so dog owners can avoid taking their family pets to an incompetent person for care!
And for Mr. Kelley to state that the appeals process proves that Denver's ban works is 100% ludicrous!! The average family doesn't have the thousands of dollars required to defend their family pet in Denver's "Guilty unless proven innocent" law. We are seeing time and time again dogs being shown to not be Pit Bull types via DNA testing, after said dogs are seized because they look a certain way. Denver's ban has proven ineffective, as BSL has everywhere it has been enacted. Politicians can't admit to passing faulty legislation. It's far easier to kill innocent family pets than to address irresponsible owners and illegal activities!! |
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| Chris @ 2009-10-15 18:38:15 | I adopted a dog in early Jan. 2003 from the Boulder Humane Society, he had been confiscated from his owner in Denver around Thanksgiving 2002.This dog was renamed Malcolm, and he gave me the most unconditional love that I've ever received in my entire life. Malcolm was the most handsome pit bull/australian cattle dog mix with two different colored eyes and black+white markings. I spoiled him rotten for four plus years until he died from an inoperable brain tumor. We think he was like 12 yearls old or more when he died. Definately adopt these dog(s) when they are taken from their owners as a result of the bans in Denver and Aurora. There are other good dogs out there who will re-pay you back every day with the love that they will show you; adopt them from the shelters they are transferred into, it will be an amazing experience. |
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| Chris @ 2009-10-15 18:38:46 | I adopted a dog in early Jan. 2003 from the Boulder Humane Society, he had been confiscated from his owner in Denver around Thanksgiving 2002.This dog was renamed Malcolm, and he gave me the most unconditional love that I've ever received in my entire life. Malcolm was the most handsome pit bull/australian cattle dog mix with two different colored eyes and black+white markings. I spoiled him rotten for four plus years until he died from an inoperable brain tumor. We think he was like 12 yearls old or more when he died. Definately adopt these dog(s) when they are taken from their owners as a result of the bans in Denver and Aurora. There are other good dogs out there who will re-pay you back every day with the love that they will show you; adopt them from the shelters they are transferred into, it will be an amazing experience. |
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| Chris @ 2009-10-15 18:39:29 | I adopted a dog in early Jan. 2003 from the Boulder Humane Society, he had been confiscated from his owner in Denver around Thanksgiving 2002.This dog was renamed Malcolm, and he gave me the most unconditional love that I've ever received in my entire life. Malcolm was the most handsome pit bull/australian cattle dog mix with two different colored eyes and black+white markings. I spoiled him rotten for four plus years until he died from an inoperable brain tumor. We think he was like 12 yearls old or more when he died. Definately adopt these dog(s) when they are taken from their owners as a result of the bans in Denver and Aurora. There are other good dogs out there who will re-pay you back every day with the love that they will show you; adopt them from the shelters they are transferred into, it will be an amazing experience. |
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| Stuart Fisk @ 2009-10-17 16:27:40 | Denver residents & Animal Law Center, PLEASE SUE THE CITY OF DENVER UNTIL IT IS FINANCIALLY RUINED!!! Politicians need to be smarter than this, and in my view those responsible for BSL in Denver suffer from greater moral ineptitude than the Michael Vick's and gang bangers of the world who victimize both citizens and dogs. GO GET 'EM!!! |
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