|
Group has bone to pick with cityAdvocates rally against breed-specific bans, such as Denver’sPeter Marcus, DDN Staff WriterMonday, October 26, 2009 | |
Pit bull advocates gathered at a Golden park on a windy fall Saturday to argue against breed-specific legislation.
Pointing primarily to the ban on pit bulls in Denver Ń which has resulted in more than 3,000 dogs killed by the city Ń the small group of advocates held signs and wore T-shirts this weekend while standing on the outskirts of Parfet Park.
“They just get such a bad rap, it really is owner-specific,” said event organizer Laura Hagan while holding her 8-month-old pit-mix Lilly. “Any dog that is chained and neglected is going to be mean; heck, you would be right now if you were. They just need to change legislation and the mindset. I mean, 100 years ago pit bulls were America’s No. 1 breed.”
The ban on pit bulls in Denver has existed since 1989. The city stopped enforcing the law in 2004 when Gov. Bill Owens signed a bill prohibiting local municipalities from enacting breed-specific legislation. Denver challenged the statute and enforcement resumed in May 2005. Since then more than 2,000 pit bulls have been killed.
The Denver Daily News has repeatedly asked city officials if the ban has made the city safer. But because pit bull bites remain relatively stagnant and it is unknown whether there is any less of the breed in the city since the ban took effect, officials are unable to say that the ordinance is working.
The law has come under intense scrutiny lately after an administrative judge ruled that animal control officers wrongly labeled a boxer-mix as a pit bull. Three so-called experts with Denver Animal Care and Control had labeled Kevin O’Connell’s dog Dexter a pit bull. But O’Connell’s own experts Ń American Kennel Club judges and professional dog handlers Ń testified that Dexter was in no way a pit bull.
Advocates are now wondering how many innocent dogs the city has killed by wrongly labeling a dog believed to be a pit bull.
Attorneys with the Wheat Ridge-based Animal Law Center are looking into legal options to ensure that the city does not kill innocent dogs. Also, a separate lawsuit filed by three former Denver residents seeks to overturn the ban.
Meanwhile, Councilwoman Carla Madison is working on a bill that would allow pit bulls in the city if owners obtain a permit for the dog, which would include having to pay fees, obtaining extra insurance and putting the dog through temperament testing. Madison Ń who describes herself as a “dog lover” Ń said the bill would not be an outright repeal, but an alternative. She has no support yet from the rest of her colleagues, and the bill likely won’t make its way to Council for full consideration.
Councilman Charlie Brown told the Denver Daily that he is actively opposing the proposal. He believes that unlike other dogs, when pit bulls attack they are lethal weapons, latching on and mauling their victims. He points to the 1989 mauling of Rev. Wilbur Billingsley, who was left with more than 70 bites and two broken legs.
“I wish these (advocates) would visit some of these victims lying in hospital beds trying to recover from pit bull attacks,” says Brown.
But Melissa Triester believes education should be the approach, not breed-specific legislation. At the rally Saturday Ń surrounded by signs like “Stop killing our dogs” Ń she spoke of bringing a Humane Society campaign to Colorado that aims at stopping urban dogfighting Ń where the majority of dogfighting takes place.
The End Dogfighting program is currently being tested in Chicago. It includes education, community outreach and law enforcement partnerships, to name a few.
“The solution is within the community,” said Triester, who owns a 7-year-old pit bull named Ginger. “We need to help better educate the people who are into street fighting.”
| Comments: |
| selwyn marock @ 2009-10-26 00:58:15 | |
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| melissa @ 2009-10-26 05:06:36 | “I wish these (advocates) would visit some of these victims lying in hospital beds trying to recover from pit bull attacks,” says Brown.----------
Charlie Brown is a typical ignorant politican - just talking about things he knows nothing about and saying things he obviously hasn't bothered to do himself ----- Has Charlie Brown visited any of the TWO HUNDRED and SEVENTY THREE people in DENVER's hospitals that were in there for attacks by non-pit bull dogs?
Because if he did, he would not make such idiotic statements. |
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| Louie Sing @ 2009-10-26 05:29:54 | I have a bone to pick with these pit bull zealots-they may scream about alleged "pit bull discrimination" but it's a FACT that thugs and gang members use these dogs for dog fighting and weapons against police, and 90% of all dog attacks against children and the elderly are done by these horrible dogs. PEOPLE WHO ARE OBSESSED OVER THESE PIT BULLS HAVE A SCREW LOOSE IN THEIR HEAD, and there is nothing wrong with breed specific legislation which happens to be law all over England and many parts of Europe. 70% of ALL dogs in pounds across America are pit bulls and pit bull mixes-there NEEDS to be legislation against these dogs across the country and dog fighting is getting worse and worse. BAN THOSE VICIOUS DOGS!!! |
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| Louie Sing @ 2009-10-26 05:33:00 | Dog fighting is getting worse due to a poor economy. These dog fighters are getting more clever and stage their dog fights in moving vans and trucks and televise them on the internet to their betting subscribers. It's far more difficult to catch than the narcotic trade (which dog fighting rings sell illegal guns and narcs as well). It's a common sense intervention to BAN THE SUPPLIES of thugs and gang members-that is, BAN PIT BULLS. It will fight gang activity considerably. HUMAN SAFETY SHOULD OVER RIDE THE MANIA OF PIT BULL ZEALOTS WHO HAVE A SCREW LOOSE IN THEIR HEADS TO BE SO OBSESSED WITH THESE DOGS IN THE FIRST PLACE. |
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| Lil Clark @ 2009-10-26 06:17:33 | I am the owner of several pit bulls. My dogs are very well behaved and are not aggressive at all. They compete in agility and one has her therapy dog certification. I don't consider myself a crazy zealot any more than the collie owner who loves collies or the chihuahua owner who loves chihuahuas or the lab owner who loves their breed. I just want to be able to own and love the breed I enjoy. Responsible pit bull owners are the people that are working the hardest to stop dog fighting and dog abuse because it is happening the most to our beloved breed so don't fight against us, fight with us. If there are no more pit bulls, the unscrupulous people who use and abuse these dogs will and already do find other breeds to exploit. The problem is with the humans, not the dogs. Most pit bulls are not vicious beasts. I love mine and would not want them taken from me because of what some cruel idiot was doing with his. |
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| melissa @ 2009-10-26 06:56:58 | Louie Sing said "90% of all dog attacks against children and the elderly are done by these horrible dogs."-----------
Ah, Louie, talk about zealots !
Please bend over and put that "number" back where you got it from------ |
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| melissa @ 2009-10-26 06:59:39 | Yep, Louie, blame the dogs - ban the dogs - but leave the guns, drugs, thugs, gangsters and violent criminals on the streets - God forbid we actually punish these people - Oh, yeah, I feel safe if the dogs are gone but the thugs are still loose.
|
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| chris @ 2009-10-26 07:55:23 | Yep, no compassion for the victims of other breeds. Vilify the owners and kill their dogs, that's the real agenda. Pits are like a prism, magnifying people's hate for all to see. |
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| Clay @ 2009-10-26 08:32:33 | Councillor Brown,
If you want to see an ordinance that really works,visit Calgary,Alberta ,Canada and talk to Bill Bruce about his "Responsible Ownership Bylaw"
***** The fact that Denver has the highest dog related hospitalizations in the State of Colorado isn`t exactly what I would call a working Ordinance.*****
And how about ALL THOSE dog bite victims in Denver Councillor?Have you paid them a visit?
|
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| Fayclis @ 2009-10-26 08:40:54 | WELL I see the dogsbite people are on here AGAIN. The FACT is that Denver's dog attacks are UP and the Golden Retreiver is NOW the number 1 Biter there.
Charlie Brown had to go ALL the way back to 1989 to name a serious mauling. GET RID OF HIM.
I WISH people could see the THOUSANDS of wonderful innocent dogs that have been ripped out of loving responsible families and KILLED for NO reason other than LOOKS. Dogs that have never and will never do ANYTHING but be devoted family dogs.
The Dogsbite people are a bunch of EVIL, Fear Mongreling Fanatics whose mandate is to spread BSL over ALL of North America with Kory Nelson at the helm. LOOK up "Exposing dogsbite.org" and LEARN the truth.
If society has a problem it is PEOPLE not dogs.
|
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| Fayclis @ 2009-10-26 08:41:56 | WELL I see the dogsbite people are on here AGAIN. The FACT is that Denver's dog attacks are UP and the Golden Retreiver is NOW the number 1 Biter there.
Charlie Brown had to go ALL the way back to 1989 to name a serious mauling. GET RID OF HIM.
I WISH people could see the THOUSANDS of wonderful innocent dogs that have been ripped out of loving responsible families and KILLED for NO reason other than LOOKS. Dogs that have never and will never do ANYTHING but be devoted family dogs.
The Dogsbite people are a bunch of EVIL, Fear Mongreling Fanatics whose mandate is to spread BSL over ALL of North America with Kory Nelson at the helm. LOOK up "Exposing dogsbite.org" and LEARN the truth.
If society has a problem it is PEOPLE not dogs.
|
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| Thom Olson @ 2009-10-26 09:38:00 | I have two pitbulls. I am not a zealot just a dog owner. Even in the comments that I am seeing from proponants of the ban the real truth is obvious. The dogs are not the problem. The problem is irresponsible pet ownership. Real statistics gathered by real experts have shown that BSL is ineffective and that pit-bulls are just as safe as any other dogs in the hands of a resopnsible owner. It is time that we make laws that address that issue so that myself and other good dog owners with good dogs can move back to Denver as well as punish anybody that keeps any breed of dog neglectfully or abusively. |
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| Jacqueline @ 2009-10-26 10:28:26 | I am the director of End Dogfighting in Milwaukee (based off of the Chicago program) and a proud pit bull owner. Louie's citation of Europe's BSL leaves out some nice facts. 1) Italy revoked its ban because there was "no scientific evidence to support it", and 2) England has seen zero decrease in dog bites since enacting their ban.
Outlawing/prohibiting something doesn't mean it goes away. Remember Prohibition in the early 1900s? Alcohol became more popular than ever AND more heavily tied to crime. Even today, meth, crack, heroin.. these are all illegal drugs that are prohibited in the U.S., but sure enough, they're still here and in impressive numbers. That's why EDUCATION is the only way around these problems. |
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| Dan Meagher @ 2009-10-26 11:08:55 | My good friend Fayclis you nailed it right on the head as well as several other commenter s. I am also not a zealot but a firm believer in placing the blame where it belongs. Currently I have the pleasure of residing with 4 "pit bulls" one which we recently took in and a poodle which will bite you faster than any of the pitties! I have had the pleasure of having this breed off and on in my life for about 23 years and have yet to have a human aggressive dog. Perhaps its luck or just maybe its all a part of being a responsible owner and not setting my dogs up to fail. Getting rid of this breed will not be the solution to the problem working together perhaps would but too much constant bickering from either side. We need to look at the big picture here people ultimately we are on the same side unless your too concerned with irradicating our breed of choice. Is that your agenda> |
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| Helen @ 2009-10-26 14:55:47 | What is missing from this debate is cold, hard fact. Denver ought to take this opportunity to begin a 5-year compilation of dog injury statistics. Breed, or perhaps type, of dog should be recorded for every injury and simple bites need to be distinguished from severe injury or maulings. Saying that Denver has more bites now than in 1989 is meaningless since the dog population will have exploded since then. Some enterprising epidemiologist needs to be commissioned to find a control city that is matched to Denver but has no ban and do a comparison study. At the end of it we could actually have a logical discussion based on fact. |
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| Melissa S @ 2009-10-26 20:56:47 | Zealots?? darn right. This is my breed. I and 99 % of every other Pitbull owner and lover take more responsibility in being a good owner then half of any other owner of any other breed. That is a fact. As a Dog lover I would NEVER wish a ban on any breed. I unlike Louie and the Dogbites.org people actually hold the right end of the leash responsible. The facts that this breed is the most abused, neglected, and misunderstood breed around today is indisputable. The fact that those same dogs will kiss your face after their skin has been burned, their ears mutilated (not talking about responsible cropping) their bones broken attest to the fact that this is the most wonderful dog. The facts also point out that Bans do not work and one can only imagine how much it cost the tax payers of Denver. Good thing I don't live there. You get what you pay for. You want knee jerk reactions to something that is not a problem. Go ahead Louie but it might benefit you to actually check out proof that 1. the media has caused alot of hysteria with this breed and 2. does not report equally fatal attacks on children by other breeds as it does by so called Pitbull type dogs.
Something you also might want to take note of Dogsbite.org and Louie, The Maltese has now been added to the aggressive dog list in Australia. uh oh,,, hope you don't have one of those.. So you bet, I am a zealot. This is my breed and I will defend it to the end. Just try to take my dog from me.... |
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| Angel @ 2009-10-27 20:21:35 | A child is 800 times more likely to be abused or killed by his/her caregiver than a pitbull. Should we ban all parents? |
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| Angel @ 2009-10-27 20:24:56 | Nobody is denying that pitbulls are can be deadly, but just like a gun, in the hands of a responsible owner they are harmless. Most attacks reported are mistakenly reported to be by pitbulls. In the Tampa Bay area reporters are retracting breed misrepresentation, left and right, due to public pressure to report the facts accurately!!! |
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
| Kat @ 2009-10-29 19:36:32 | I am a Denver resident and horrified by this...quit spending our tax dollars this way. Enough - killing dogs won't solve anything! |
| Flag this comment as Inappropriate / Spam |
|
 |
|