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Pit bull group wont roll over

Says city is spending thousands enforcing, defending the citys ban

Peter Marcus, DDN Staff Writer

Thursday, April 8, 2010

 


Denver continues to spend thousands of dollars paying attorneys to defend and settle lawsuits stemming from the citys ban on pit bulls.

There are at least eight individuals who have or are currently pursuing or considering lawsuits against the city. Denver resident Desiree Arnold recently won a $5,000 settlement from the city after her dog Coco was killed by animal control officials, according to the mayors office. The January settlement also inspired procedural changes to Denvers ordinance.

The city is also spending thousands of dollars defending itself against a lawsuit filed by pit bull advocate Sonya Dias, who was forced to sell her home in Denver to save her pit bull Gryffindor. City officials have outsourced the case to a private law firm, paying Wells, Anderson & Race, LLC $150 per hour to handle the case. An Open Records request by a member of pit bull advocacy group The Pit Bull Band revealed that Denver has already paid the law firm $4,769 in December and $10,337 in January.

The spending comes as the city deals with a $120 million budget shortfall.

Were putting pressure on the city theres just going to be more and more, Dias said of the lawsuits. This law, its old school its yesterday. Theyre saying that we have a problem, but instead of identifying what the problem is, theyre just rounding up and killing dogs.

Denver has killed 2,266 pit bulls since enforcement of the citys ban resumed in 2005. The number has tapered off over the years, with only 13 killings this year out of 53 impoundments. Animal control officials do not have an explanation for the decrease.


Coco the dog

Coco was one of the dogs killed in 2008. Coco was rounded up from Arnolds Denver residence in 2003, but released to a third party. After finding out that Cocos new home was not a safe place for the pit bull to live, Arnold took Coco back in 2008. On June 23, 2008, Coco was seized again.

This time, Coco was scheduled to be killed on June 26, 2008. Arnold requested an administrative hearing, but the hearing was denied because it was the second time Coco had been rounded up. Arnold hired an attorney, Karen Breslin, who fought for Coco. The pit bull somehow was taken off the kill list and a hearing was granted.

But on July 31, 2008, animal control officers testified that Coco was a pit bull prohibited by Denver ordinance. Still, the dog only possessed 11 of the 25 attributes listed on the checklist for pit bulls. The checklist in and of itself has been questioned by pit bull advocates and dog lovers.

Questions were raised in October 2009 over innocent dogs being killed by city officials because they were wrongly identified as being a pit bull. A dog named Dexter was determined to be a pit bull by animal control officers, but an administrative judge ruled that the officials had wrongly labeled the boxer-mix a pit bull. Advocates believe hundreds of dogs may have been wrongly identified. 

Cocos fate was learned on Aug. 5, 2008, when an administrative judge upheld that Coco was a pit bull and therefore prohibited.

Arnold and Breslin asked Doug Kelley, director of Animal Care and Control, to grant Coco release to a rescue facility. But Kelley declined the request, pointing out that policy at the time required animal control to kill pit bulls seized a second time.

The ordinance really doesnt even require that the dog is released, so theres really a policy process on whether the dog is released on a second impoundment and what the situation is because what the ordinance says is that the owner has to provide assurance that the dog wont come back again, said Kelley.

On Aug. 6, 2008, Coco was killed and his remains were returned to the Arnold family in a black garbage bag.

But just three weeks later, another pit bull, Forrest, who was seized twice by the city, was granted release to an outside rescue facility. The case received widespread media attention, which is believed to have played a role in Forrests release.

Following Forrests release, the Department of Environmental Health implemented a new policy extending to all pit bull owners the opportunity to place their seized dogs with reputable shelter facilities even after a second seizure. 

Arnold wonders why she wasnt given that opportunity after Coco was seized the second time. She says her family still grieves Cocos death.

We still talk about him all the time, said Arnold, pointing out that Coco had never harmed a person or animal. He was our family dog I called him my son.


Policy changes

The January settlement also inspired changes to the citys ordinance banning pit bulls. Documents are now available to the public and to animal control officers that spell out rules and procedures for when a dog is seized. The documents include operating procedures for animal control officers; a guide for owners when their dog is seized; and an official notice form to dog owners explaining that their dog has been seized.

Another policy change stemming from the settlement requires unanimous agreement from all three animal control evaluators in order to label a dog a pit bull.

Councilwoman Carla Madison finds it a shame that the city is spending thousands of dollars enforcing and defending its ordinance. She has proposed a bill that would permit pit bulls if owners take the dog through temperament testing, muzzle it, and pay special licensing and insurance fees, to name a few proposed restrictions. But she has little support from her colleagues.

Right now I dont think anybodys looking at repealing the law, and so I guess they feel like they need to just go ahead and defend what they can, said Madison. In time, maybe we can add the Responsible Pit Bull Ownership Act, which might help ease some of these cases so that we might not be in this position. Its unfortunate that were in the position where we now have to defend this law.

Madison says theres talk of putting together a task force to work with neighborhood groups about possibly implementing the Responsible Pit Bull Ownership Act.


Support for ban

But Councilwoman Jeanne Faatz says she recently held a survey on the issue, which received 1,839 responses, and 78 percent of her constituents said they were in favor of the ban.

Thats the will of my voters, so if it takes defending it, Im willing to defend it, said Faatz. 

Meanwhile, the mayors office defended using an outside law firm to defend the ordinance, arguing that the city has for years used Wells, Anderson & Race to assist with cases.

The firm has been helping the City Attorneys Office at a time when budget reductions have reduced staffing levels, said Eric Brown, a spokesman for Mayor John Hickenlooper. In this particular case, the attorney handling the lawsuit retired and Wells, Anderson & Race took over specific parts of the case on the citys behalf.

Brown added that the Arnold settlement was in the best interest of both parties.


Expensive to enforce

Pit bull advocates, however, believe the city is spending a quarter of a million dollars per year on enforcing the ban money they believe would be better spent closing the citys shortfall. City officials have been unable to provide the Denver Daily News with a cost analysis of how much it costs to enforce the ban, stating that there is no specific line item for the enforcement, and that the cost is part of overall animal control costs.

The city needs to take another look at this law because its not going to stop, Dias said of the citys spending to enforce and defend the law. There are going to be more (lawsuits,) and aside from the monetary impact of it, which of course is huge this law is an old way of thinking.

 

Comments:
Karen Delise @ 2010-04-08 06:03:16It should also be pointed out that Denver is continuing to support an inhumane ban that has had NO effect in reducing the number of dog bites or attacks. For the past 15 years Denver has had the highest incidence of dog bite related hospitalizations in the state of Colorado. I think if the public knew this - the ban in Denver would be viewed much differently - and recognized as the ineffective, inhumane and costly law that it is.
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BullyBob @ 2010-04-08 06:29:12Considering there is not a breed called a pit bull I would question the criteria. There is the American PIt Bull Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier and the American Staffored Terrier which are sometimes called a pit bull.. plus over 20 other breeds that are called pit bulls.. such as Dogo Argentino and the American Bull dog. As far as insurance goes I have not problem with my 3 pit bull type dogs. They wanted to know if I own a staffordshire terrier or rottie which I do not. I follow legislation on this a lot. The more progressive towns , cities etc have dangerous dog laws where pekinese to king corso are all included..
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BullyBob @ 2010-04-08 06:47:47Please explain why the city of Boulder has a lower dog bite per population rate than Denver. Boulder has no pit bull regulation and Denver does. Also if I lived in Denver (which I used to) I would have my dogs DNA tested. Then if the city tried to impound my dog.. I would sue and make sure the animal control officer lost his job. Pit bull type dogs actually come from a mastiff background.. so more than likely the DNA will indicate mastiff mix.. which the law makes no mention of.
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Fayclis @ 2010-04-08 06:52:35Firstly the number one biter in Denver is now the Lab. Second the teeth of a dog, that could be deemed a "pit bull type" are NO different than ANY other dog. Thirdly the pit bull has NO more strength than ANY other dog of the same size and NO dog has "jaws that lock" or "teeth that tear". LOOK up "Bite Force Compeitition -German Sheppard, Roitweiler and Pit Bull". The so called "pit bull type dog came in LAST in both tests done and did not "tear" any more or any less than the other dogs tested. The MYTHS and demonizing of dogs that LOOK a certain way is bogas. ONE of the 4 breeds of dogs commonly labelled were NOT called the "Nanny's Dog" for nothing. These dogs when raised in good family homes and properly socialized are NO different than any other dog. Really when will the ignorance, discrimination and profiling end, especially in Denver? OVERALL dog bites and attacks are UP and until individual OWNERS are held accountable for their dogs nothing will change. Since the UK put their BAN in dog attacks have increased by a soaring 66%. Meanwhile Calgary's dog bites have DECREASED by over 25% in spite of their huge growth. They do NOT ban dogs based on LOOKS. Time for Denver to THINK and GROW UP and look to the PROFESSIONAL studies done to enhance public safety. The best place to start is putting into play the TASK FORCE done by the American Medical Veterinary Association called "A COMMUNITY Approach to Dog Bite Prevention". How about the media RUN a few articles based on PROFESSIONAL information and prevention based on THEIR information and start being fiscially responsible?
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BullyBob @ 2010-04-08 07:27:51So Mr Thomas since it only costs a few thousand more a year I think you ought to pay the difference...also an Iraq vet in Ohio sued for 1/2 million since his dog was not a pit bull type dog.. DNA proved this. He was forced to move since he was constantly being harrassed by the police. Maybe the city of Denver would like to settle a law suit for 1/2 million. It costs the city of Wilminton DE over 100,000 a year to enforce their pit bull type dog law ( they are more fiscally responsible than Denver and keep track of expenses). Mostly for DNA testing of dogs that they beleive to be a pit bull type dog. The only real way to prove what a dog is composed of is DNA testing
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Jan Miller @ 2010-04-08 07:32:15Luke Thomas, it has NOT been proven that pit bulls are a dangerous breed. Within any breed, there can be dangerous individual dogs and dogs should be judged individually, NOT by breed which is just like racial discrimination. Denver should implement a policy to protect people from dangerous dogs and irresponsible owners, regardless of breed. Then, the number of dog bite incidents will decrease.
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Jan Miller @ 2010-04-08 07:36:24Fayclis, GREAT post! Great point that areas that ban these breeds are not experiencing lower bite rates and some areas are repealing these laws because of it. Calgary has a very good dangerous dog policy which is not breed specific. Why can't Denver see that this is working and use logic to implement laws that make sense? These legislators needs to open their closed minds and see reality and the facts.
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J.M. @ 2010-04-08 08:38:18Your way is not working Denver.You`ve got the highest rate of dog-related hospitalizations in the State! Keep Tourist Dollars out of Denver.Support Denver Dog Owners.
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Eric Gillaspy @ 2010-04-08 08:52:41My pitbull, Allegra, is a certified therapy dog and visits nursing homes. Denver is the only city in the nation to take and kill peoples dogs. I dont and wont go to Denver and spend money. Denver, you dont want me or my dogs....so you dont get any of my money. Time for DENVER people to get a bit angry over this. You cant be a dog lover and agree with this, so change it by voting out your city council members. Especially Charlie Brown.
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Fayclis @ 2010-04-08 09:26:25Dear Peter; It is NOT about a "pit bull group" rolling over. It IS however about people that care about other living beings and don't believe that dogs should be KILLED based ONLY on what they "might" LOOK like. It IS also about GREAT dogs being TORN out of loving caring responsible homes for doing NOTHING but having short hair and medium builds. YOU have pit bull group in Denver but THAT group is a BSL LOBBY group with Kory Nelson behind them and media feeding off the buzz they create. How about SOME responsible, fair and accurate reporting that would truly enhance public safety taken from PROFESSIONALS like the American Medical Veterinary Association or "people" like them? THIS is about injustice, prejudice, discrimination and profiling and MANY people that are avocates ARE against THAT "sort of thing". Look UP "Panic Policing Making; Breed Bans in Canada and the United States" and SEE how media effects IF bans are put in place due to THEIR reporting. SADLY, Denver seems to have the "type" of media whereas "some" promote the banning and killing of every short haired medium sized dog and dosen't CARE how many INNOCENT dogs are caught up in the nightmare as long as papers get sold and "hits are obtained. Italy was UP to 98 banned and/or restricted dogs before it recinded it's ban in 2009 after documenting for well over a DECADE NO DIFFERENCE in dog attacks no matter HOW many dogs it banned. THEY now look to individual OWNER accountablity, strong leash laws and education. MAYBE it's FINALLY time for DENVER to do the same?
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Michelle @ 2010-04-08 10:07:45It is people like Luke Thomas who don't know a thing about the breed or about dogs in general that make it hard to educate people. Luke, none of your arguments are correct. First no ban keeps pitbulls from gangs, every day on craigslist there are pitbull pups sold to the highest bidder and alot of them come from Denver and other banned areas. You are more likely to drown in a puddle then get bit by a pitbull. The ban is one of the reasons why you see so many in the shelters and have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to shelter them. Oh by the way you as a tax payer are paying for that too. Pitbull bites are covered more than other dog bite, but don't be fooled, there are plenty of children mauled every day by other breeds. If you think their bite is any different then you have never been bitten by a dog ever, which just goes to show how often is actually happens. Get your facts straight before you spout off about something you know nothing about. Oh and one more thing, what about the pitbulls that were grandfathered in, have you been attacked by one lately? Are you running through the streets scared?
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BullyBob @ 2010-04-08 10:09:39I wondered how long it would take pitsr4fools to show up. Who likes to point people to websites run by a web developer that gets it input from new articles. And we all know how accurate newspapers are. Funny how Best Friends Animal Santuary, Cesar Millan and American Veternarian association are all agains BSL,. The people that actually handle dogs are against BSL yet some web developer knows more than them ?
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Jasmine K @ 2010-04-08 12:20:38Dangerous dogs should take care of all dogs. When HSUS takes the lead to cause the extinction of a breed of dog, that is going one step too far. Now required is that owners pay for the investigation with exhorbant fees paid to the caretakers of the animals, often 10s of thousands of dollars. Does this sound like extortion? But...HSUS has worked its way around these laws so they are perfectly legal. It is all about stealing dogs from owners under the color of law. When police start going house to house, that brings up another country in search for a certain group. I would caution towns and counties as many more owners are filing lawsuits. Can you imagine in this economy moving to keep your dog. This should not happen in the USA as long as following the rules for dangerous dogs and the most biting dog is the Chihuahua in a recent study. Will that breed be next. People should realize that HSUS is an vegan animal rights movement and really has nothing to do with animal welfare as that is just the excuse to seize dogs cats and farm animals.
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Robin Pitstick @ 2010-04-08 13:00:18I have owned Pits all my life and so do many people i know. They have never bitten anyone. Pits have not been proven to be dangerous. Thats a false statment Mr Thomas. They need to spend that money on the root of the problem. OWNERS!!
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BullyBob @ 2010-04-08 13:09:31so dave where is the picture of the dog. pit bull should be changed to the word mutt or heinz 57. Because there is not a breed call pit bull. Just goggle the term and you will find that there are several breeds of dogs some times called a pit bull.
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BullyBob @ 2010-04-08 13:49:25so the mother left the baby unattended with 2 large dogs. this sounds like another owner problem to me. a few months ago a daschound chewed the toes off a sleeping infant.. yet no one want to ban daschounds. thanks dave for another article pointing out owner irresponsiblity
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Team Pit-a-Full @ 2010-04-08 14:14:51Hickenlooper, Brown, Hsncock and Nelson... we said "this aint over" and we meant it. As for Jeanne Fatz "survey" she has been caught and the whistle blown on her crooked surveyes before. Once a scum bag politician, always a scum bag politician. In final... we responsible pit bull owners WILL NOT STOP until the ban is 110% repealed and / or the current mayor and city council is voted out and new laws are written and put in place. Your Good Buddy in So Calif... Chef David and Team Pit-a-Full (Forrest the Pit Bull, Mr. Kane the Pit Bull, and Little Daze the Pit Bull) PS... Little did councils realise, however, that in taking on pit bulls they would confront an incredibly dangerous, unpredictable and tenacious species capable of fighting to the death. Their owners. Richard Guilliatt
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Gabriela Zoller @ 2010-04-08 14:25:23What a shame to see that Denver still capitulates to the anti-pit bull hysteria. A study in the Journal of Pediatrics w/in the last several years showed that pit bulls are not among the top FIVE breeds to bite children. Unfortunately, the media likes to hype up every pit bull "attack" story - meanwhile failing to report the breed in stories of non-pits that have attacked humans. The useful statistic the media could point out is how many attacks are committed by unneteured male dogs. Denver, and other cities that have BSL, would be wise to put their money into passing and enforcing mandatory spay/neuter laws for companion animals. Shame, shame on you, Denver: while this legislation stands, you won't get a dime of my money when I go home to visit family in Boulder, nor will I give a dime to my alma mater, CU.
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Laurel Ashley @ 2010-04-08 15:03:01The city of Denver will be wasting taxpayer money on this ill-conceived and unconstitutional law not just in enforcement but to settle all the lawsuits. They had better reconsider.
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Captain Spaulding @ 2010-04-08 17:27:41is an idiot who knows nothing about dogs. For crying out loud, let him have his goat!! Pits are great family pets whose level of aggression is below poodles.
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crisologo gregorio @ 2010-04-08 18:30:31I am always amazed at the overly large population of ignorant idiots in Denver. I had to move to Littleton with my two AmStaffs after Denver took them from me. There are so many studies published that indicate that BSL does not work, Best Friends Animal Society has a great resource "Saving America's Dog" campaign. People who are in office in Denver should be required to read through their packets of information, I am sure BSL would be overturned if the legislators actually read the articles and the sources cited.
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No mandatory S/N @ 2010-04-08 19:56:39There is absolutely no need to have mandatory spay/neuter laws.That simply leads to more animals in shelters due to non compliance for various reasons and eventually leads to no companion animals which is what PeTA wants.Spay/Neuter should be encouraged and free/low cost clinics should be set up.Denver should look to Calgary Alberta,Canada.They have no Breed Bans,no pet limits,no mandatory spay/neuter.They encourage responsible ownership,they provide education and low cost S/N.If you`re not a problem,they leave you alone regardless of what you own and if you are a problem you hear from them regardless of what you own.
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MzTx @ 2010-04-08 20:43:05You people have no Idea wtf you are talking about ! (LUKE) Most of all Dog Attacks are to CHILDREN Period . " Pit Bulls " are no different . The reason why children are attacked more is because of #1 their Size #2 How they treat/act to a dog . Kids are biten more by Chihuahuas / Labs / Poodles all of them compared to a 30 yr old / 15 yr old . Then you say " Pit Bulls " aren't allowed by Insurance companies - neither are some other breeds - Mastiffs / Staffordshire Bull Terriers , Rotts , Dobbies , Cane Corso's and many more - I don't see you talking about all of them . " Pit Bull " bans don't just mean they can't breed anymore - it means millions of dogs die just for how they look and not what they have done . Dogs who aren't even " Pit Bulls " . There are more dog attacks in Denver after the Ban than Before - explain that 1 . Since the ban is working so well - huh ?? Education is the key - Let's make it harder to own a " Pit Bull " the RIGHT WAY . Let's make it nobody w/ a Criminal Background can own 1 . No drug / Assualt / murder or any violent charges can own these breeds. Make it that you have to take Obedience classes for the human as well as the dog ( that should be for all dogs ) You " Pit Bull " Haters are just as Ignorant as the Dogfighters- only think this dog if good for 1 reason . Goats need lots of room to graize - also to shit ( pretty stinky animals ) . You want to talk about shredding things LoL a goat can eat through METAL - and which Goats are known to BITE - actually very mouthy farm animals . Dog pounds aren't only FULL of ' PIT BULLS " sure they are Majority because they are the #1 being bred and sold . Yeah blame the dog - the LESSER BEING - instead of the breeders and irresponsible owners . LUKE : YOU SOUND LIKE A VERY WEAK & IGNORANT HUMAN .
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Grand Knuckler @ 2010-04-08 20:43:26I feel bad that you have been victimized by inflammatory hype, perpetuated by the media. The breed is welcomed and endorsed by every national service and assistance dog group as well as every national organised canine competition. In fact, they hold more titles in agility and schuzhund than any other breed. The dogs you refer to are abused, damaged animals. Brought to an unimaginable state of mind by MAN! Any dog holds potential, very bad HUMANS abuse and force behavior from the breed for their own negative purposes. Please, put aside your closed minded prejudices adn spend some time with normal, healty animals and you wil see a breed that impresses with it's abilities.
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Grand Knuckler @ 2010-04-08 20:44:14I feel bad that you have been victimized by inflammatory hype, perpetuated by the media. The breed is welcomed and endorsed by every national service and assistance dog group as well as every national organised canine competition. In fact, they hold more titles in agility and schuzhund than any other breed. The dogs you refer to are abused, damaged animals. Brought to an unimaginable state of mind by MAN! Any dog holds potential, very bad HUMANS abuse and force behavior from the breed for their own negative purposes. Please, put aside your closed minded prejudices adn spend some time with normal, healty animals and you wil see a breed that impresses with it's abilities.
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Kat S @ 2010-04-08 20:49:45This law is just completely ridiculous as are many of the comments. Its not just about Pit Bulls. Its about a bunch of city officials having the right to seize dogs that have never behaved in an aggressive manner. Do you have a lab with a blocky head? I sure hope not they can take the dog and KILL it. Thats rightyour dog doesnt have to do anything wrong. They can kill it. And, to get your dog out before they kill it, you had to sign a statement admitting it was a Pit Bull and promising the dog wouldnt be found in Denver again. For Petes sake, lets pass a law that holds people responsible for having vicious dogs and enforce that. I am a Denver resident, native, tax payer and voter. Enough is enough! I dont want my taxes spent to kill dogs based on their looks or protect those who do (and no, I dont now, nor have ever had a Pit I have little dogs.)
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Dave @ 2010-04-09 08:20:31Kat S wrote: "For Petes sake, lets pass a law that holds people responsible for having vicious dogs and enforce that." =================== Yes, just look at how responsible dog owners are. See how there are no dogs off leash, how little dog feces you see on grassy areas, how seldom you hear barking dogs in your neighborhood. Oh yes, dog owners are such responsible people, let's trust them to keep their dogs under control. Ridiculous.
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BullyBob @ 2010-04-09 09:54:32As matter of fact I always carry poop bags with me, my pit bulls are always on leash. So exactly what is your problem?
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Eric Gillaspy @ 2010-04-09 09:59:40Maybe we should pass a law in all the suburbs of Denver banning the number one biting breed.
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Dave @ 2010-04-09 10:24:34BullyBob wrote: "As matter of fact I always carry poop bags with me, my pit bulls are always on leash. So exactly what is your problem?" ===================== That's great, BB. Now could you get all the other dog owners to me as responsible as you obviously are?
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Dave @ 2010-04-09 10:25:44BullyBob wrote: "As matter of fact I always carry poop bags with me, my pit bulls are always on leash. So exactly what is your problem?" ===================== That's great, BB. Now could you get all the other dog owners to BE (sorry for the typo before) as responsible as you obviously are?
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BullyBob @ 2010-04-09 10:45:27In reply to Dave.. I beleive that is the responsiblity of Animal Control to enforce the existing laws which do not descriminate against type of dog. That is the entire problem with the BSL...it is discminating against the appearance of a dog. I am sure the owners of poodles at times do not pick up after their dogs.
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Dave @ 2010-04-09 10:53:44BullyBob wrote: "I beleive that is the responsiblity of Animal Control to enforce the existing laws which do not descriminate against type of dog." ================== My point was about the general responsibility level of dog owners.
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@ 2010-04-09 11:44:45It seems this "Luke Thomas" person is Kory Nelson??? Luke.... you seem to be EVERYWHERE all the Pit Bull articles are... Hmm... No wonder your comments have no merit.
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Karl Hungus @ 2010-04-09 15:38:45Luke Thomas: Really - "Most often Children?" You sir, are too stupid to live.
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Social Mange @ 2010-04-09 18:59:32..for the mayor and councillors seem to have absolutely no common sense. They're spending hundreds of thousands of scarce taxpayer dollars killing dogs that have done no wrong, solely because the dogs are a politically incorrect shape.
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Social Mange @ 2010-04-09 19:00:27..for the mayor and councillors seem to have absolutely no common sense. They're spending hundreds of thousands of scarce taxpayer dollars killing dogs that have done no wrong, solely because the dogs are a politically incorrect shape.
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Social Mange @ 2010-04-09 19:00:48..for the mayor and councillors seem to have absolutely no common sense. They're spending hundreds of thousands of scarce taxpayer dollars killing dogs that have done no wrong, solely because the dogs are a politically incorrect shape.
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Social Mange @ 2010-04-09 19:01:16..for the mayor and councillors seem to have absolutely no common sense. They're spending hundreds of thousands of scarce taxpayer dollars killing dogs that have done no wrong, solely because the dogs are a politically incorrect shape.
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Social Mange @ 2010-04-09 19:02:17..for the mayor and councillors seem to have absolutely no common sense. They're spending hundreds of thousands of scarce taxpayer dollars killing dogs that have done no wrong, solely because the dogs are a politically incorrect shape.
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Social Mange @ 2010-04-09 19:03:00...the site kept repeating the request for the image confirmation.
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Social Mange @ 2010-04-09 19:03:46Breed specific legislation is unfounded, unjust, inhumane, vague, shoddy, proven ineffective and proven fiscally irresponsible. It legislates law-abiding people into second-class citizenship solely on the shape of the property they own - their dogs. It kills dogs solely because of their shape. It does nothing to reduce dog bites and attacks by dogs of other breeds and types
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Social Mange @ 2010-04-09 19:05:14Does Councillor Faatz realize that if the will of the majority had been followed at all times, she would not have the right to an education, a vote, property ownership, or her position as a city councillor? Duh.
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Social Mange @ 2010-04-09 19:07:26There is no such thing as a pit bull. That is a slang name for a dog of a certain shape. The four pure breeds usually named in breed specific legislation are so rare, I doubt that many have met one. The substantially similar description of a pit bull encompasses many pure breeds of dogs other than those named in BSL and countless crossbreed and mixed breed dogs. If taken literally, all Labrador retriever owners, all Boxer owners, all Rhodesian Ridgeback owners and the owners of numerous other pure breeds should be compelled to comply with BSL.
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Patrick R. @ 2010-04-15 08:59:52I had a pit bull for 12 years that never bit a single person or another dog. However my child has been bitten by a Lab before, but I don't go out trying to ban labs. What needs to be inforced is responsible dog ownership and leashes in public places.
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CarataBichep @ 2010-06-03 16:45:32Âñåì ïðèâåò, îòñòóïëþ îò òåìû ïîäñêàæèòå äåéñòâèòåëüíî ÷òî âñå èíòåðíåò ìàãàçèíû òåïåðü áóäóò îáëàãàþòñÿ íàëîãàìè, êòî çíàåò òàê ýòî èëè íåò?
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FilosofSamuel @ 2010-06-05 01:42:51ХоÑел ÑзнаÑÑ Ñ Ð²Ð°Ñ ÑоÑоÑий блог много маÑеÑиала как ÑаÑÑо надо обновлÑÑÑ ÑÑоб блог невÑпал Ñ Ð¸Ð½Ð´ÐµÐºÑа. СколÑко не пÑÑалÑÑ Ñвой поднÑÑÑ Ð½Ðµ полÑÑаеÑÑÑ Ð¼Ð¾Ð¶ÐµÑ Ð¿Ð¾ÑовеÑÑеÑе как ÑÑо можно ÑделаÑÑ. Ргде Ð²Ñ Ð±ÐµÑÑÑе ÑникалÑнÑй конÑекÑÑ? Сами пиÑиÑе или заказÑвали.
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BiliTerner @ 2010-06-05 02:58:23Óâëåêàòåëüíî! Òîëüêî íå ìîãó ïîíÿòü íàñêîëüêî ÷àñòî îáíîâëÿåòñÿ ýòîò áëîã? :)
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TriCarata @ 2010-06-05 04:48:36Ïðèâåò ÿ âîò ìó÷àþñü â äîãàäêàõ âû íà ñâî¸ì áëîãå ÷òî íèáóòü çàðàáàòûâàåòå èëè ïðîñòî äëÿ äóøè ó ìåíÿ íàïðèìåð þâåëèðíûé ìàãàçèí ìàãàçèí ÿ íà í¸ì çàðàáàòûâàþ, èëè âû çà äåíüãè ðàçìåùàåòå ðåêëàìó è áàííåðû òî ñêîëüêî ñòîèò ó âàñ ïîìåñòèòü ñâîé áàííåð? òîëüêî áåç ôàíàòèçìà.
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StroyFinance @ 2010-06-09 08:25:49Sorry to hear about your frustrations with poker, but i guess thats the nature of the game. Doing everything right, and still losing is extremely difficult to overcome, but maybe taking a break and spending time away from tournament poker will allow you to be refreshed and rejuvenated, and remember why you love tournament poker so much. Best of luck.
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vergtun @ 2010-06-11 23:47:21Ñðî÷íî âîçüìó êðåäèò èëè çàåì â Õàðüêîâå 3000 - 5000 ãðèâåíü íà ãîä - äâà. ×àñíûé ïðåäïðèíèìàòåëü, ìîæíî ñî ñïðàâêîé ìîá. 0982370533
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vergtun @ 2010-06-14 01:06:21Ñðî÷íî âîçüìó êðåäèò èëè çàåì â Õàðüêîâå 4000 - 5000 ãðèâåíü íà ãîä - äâà. ×àñíûé ïðåäïðèíèìàòåëü, ìîæíî ñî ñïðàâêîé ìîá. 0982370533
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propbirj @ 2010-06-20 00:28:38Ïðåäëàãàþ èçãîòîâëåíèå ñàéòîâ, èíòåðíåò - ìàãàçèíîâ â ãîðîäå Õàðüêîâå 0982370533
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nertnd @ 2010-07-10 03:19:08- íà äîñêè èíòåðíåòà 10$ íà 10000 äîñîê èëè 15$ íà 20000 äîñîê - â áåëûå êàòàëîãè ñàéòîâ 10$ íà 6000 êàòàëîãîâ - íà ôîðóìû 20$ íà 30000 ôîðóìîâ - 40$ íà 60000 ôîðóìîâ - ðàññûëêà âðó÷íóþ íà ëþáûå ñàéòû 0.2$ çà ðåãèñòðàöèþ ñáîð ñàéòîâ âõîäèò â ñòîèìîñòü ìèíèìóì 100 ðåãèñòðàöèé. - ðàññûëêà íà ñàéòû îïðåäåëåííîé òåìàòèêè 60$ ïîâòîðíûå ðàññûëêè 20$ - "Óìíûå" èìýéë ðàññûëêè - ñîáèðàåòñÿ áàçà e-mail ïîòåíöèàëüíûõ êëèåíòîâ, îðãàíèçàöèé ïî òåìå, à çíà÷èò íå ÿâëÿåòñÿ ñïàìîì 100$ ïåðâàÿ (ñáîð+ðàññûëêà) ïîâòîðíûå ðàññûëêè 20$-30$ áàçó îòäàþ Âàì - íà äîñêè, êàòàëîãè ëþáîãî ðåãèîíà èëè ãîðîäà 20$ - 40$ - ñáîð áàç ëþáûõ ñàéòîâ, èìýéëîâ ver934@mail.ru
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gerkdfv @ 2010-07-16 02:44:19íà èíòåðíåòäîñêè 10äîë. íà 10ò. , 15äîëë. íà 20ò. 6ò. êàòàëîãàõ(áåëûå) 10äîëë. íà 30ò. ôîðóìîâ 20äîëë. 60ò. ôîðóìîâ 40äîëë. 100ò. ôîðóìîâ 50äîëë. âðó÷íóþ êóäà õîòèòå 0.2äîëë. çà îäèí ñàéò, 60 ñàéòîâ ìèí.çàêàç.Ïîèñê ñàéòîâ áåñïëàòíî. íà ñàéòû îïðåäåëåííîé òåìû 60äîëë. ñëåäóþùèå 20äîë. èìýéë ðåêëàìà ïî îïðåäåëåííîé òåìå 100äîëë. (íå ñïàì) íàäîñêè ëþáîãî ðåãèîíà èëè ãîðîäà 30äîëë. ñîáèðó áàçû ëþáûõ ðåñóðñîâ, èìýéë terd645@inbox.ru
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gerldfh @ 2010-07-21 02:31:34Ðàçìåùþ Âàøó ðåêëàìó íà 21 òûñÿ÷å äîñîê. ññûëîê â ßíäåêñå ïîÿâëÿåòñÿ ïîðÿäêà 10000 (ìîæíî áîëüøå) - 50$ Íà ôîðóìû 30$ íà 60 òûñ. Îò÷åòû ïðåäîñòàâëÿþ. Çàêàçû èëè âîïðîñû ïèøèòå íà renfer@bk.ru
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neflavd @ 2010-07-27 02:37:37äâàòäàòü òûñÿ÷ áåñïëàòíûõ äîñîê 20 äîëëàðîâ øåñòü òûñÿ÷ êàòàëîãîâ 10 äîëëàðîâ äâàòäàòü òûñÿ÷ áåñïëàòíûõ äîñîê ñ ïîëó÷åíèåì ïîðÿäêà 15 òûñÿ÷ ññûëîê â êàòàëîãå ßíäåêñ 100$ òðèäöàòü òûñÿ÷ ôîðóìîâ 20 äîëàðîâ øåñòäåñÿò òûñÿ÷ ôîðóìîâ 30 äîëëàðîâ ñòî ïÿòäåñÿò òûñÿ÷ ôîðóìîâ 50 äîëëàðîâ ìåíÿòü òåêñò 15 äîëëðàðîâ çà 200 âàðèàíòîâ ðàçìåùåíèå âðó÷íóþ 0.2 äîëëàðà çà ñàéò (íå ìåíüøå 100 ñàéòîâ) íà e-mail ïî ëþáîé òåìå 100 äîëëàðîâ ñàéòû äëÿ ðåêëàìû ëþáîãî ãîðîäà, îáëàñòè 30 äîëëàðîâ ners645@inbox.ru
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mbt shoes @ 2010-08-02 14:22:06nice share, good article, very usefull for me...thanks
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free registry cleaner @ 2010-08-04 07:39:28One again, your idea is very good.thank you!very much.
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personal finance software @ 2010-08-10 09:02:10Enjoyed reading the report - most informative thanks
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personal finance software @ 2010-08-10 13:13:42nice share, good article, very usefull for me...thank you
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mawzerf @ 2010-08-17 20:06:38Ðó÷íàÿ ðàñûëêà ðåêëàìíûõ îáúÿâëåíèé íà áåñïëàïëàòíûå èíòåðíåò-äîñêè 50$ íà 3000 äîñîê (äî 15 òûñ. äîñîê) â ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèå ðàçäåëû äîñîê è âûáîðîì ñðîêà ðàçìåùåíèÿ. Ïîñëå ðàçìåùåíèÿ ïîëó÷èòå ññûëêè äîñîê ãäå íàõîäèòñÿ Âàøà ðåêëàìà. Åñòü àâòîðàçìåùåíèå íà 19 òûñÿ÷ èòåðíåò-äîñîê ññûëîê â Êàòàëîãå ßíäåêñ ïîÿâëÿåòñÿ 10 - 16 òûñÿ÷ 100$. Íà ôîðóìû 50$ íà 120000 ôîðóìîâ san692@inbox.ru
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farsats @ 2010-08-19 01:32:09Äëÿ æåëàþùèõ ïðîðåêëàìèðîâàòü ñâîé ñàéò èëè óñëóãè (ìîæíî áåç ñàéòà) â èíòåðíåòå ïðåäëàãàþ óñëóãè ïî ðàçìåùåíèþ Âàøåé ðåêëàìû íà ìíîãèõ ñàéòàõ èíòåðíåòà â ðó÷íîì èëè àâòîìàòè÷åñêîì ðåæèìàõ: - Ðó÷íîå ðàçìåùåíèå íà 3000 èíòåðíåò-äîñîê 100$ äàþ îò÷åò â âèäå áàçû ññûëîê ãäå ðàçìåñòèë ðåêëàìó. Òàì ãäå íåîáõîäèìî äåëàþ àêòèâàöèþ ïî email.Ðàçìåùåíèå äåëàåòñÿ â ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèå êàòåãîðèè (íå ñïàì) è âûáîðîì ñðîêà ðàçìåùåíèÿ. - Àâòîìàòè÷åñêîå ðàçìåùåíèå íà 20òûñÿ÷ èíòåðíåò-äîñîê 100$ .Ïîñëå ðàññûëêè â ßíäåêñå ïîÿâëÿåòñÿ ïïðèìåðíî 10òûñÿ÷ ññûëîê ÷òî äàåò äîïîëíèòåëüíî ïîñåòèòåëåé èç ßíäåêñ êàòàëîãà ïðè÷åì ïî áîëüøåìó êîëè÷åñòâó êëþ÷åâûõ ñëîâ ÷òî åùå óëó÷øàåò ýôôåêò. - Àâòîìàòè÷åñêîå ðàçìåùåíèå íà 150òûñÿ÷ ôîðóìîâ 50$ Êîëè÷åñòâî ñàéòîâ óêàçàíîå â ýòîé ðåêëàìå ýòî êîëè÷åñòâî óñïåøíûõ ðåãèñòðàöèé, à íå âñÿ áàçà. e-mail: dawr65@mail.ru
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ganmars @ 2010-08-22 10:09:21Äëÿ òåõ êòî õî÷åò äàòü ðåêëàìó â èíòåðíåòå èëè ñäåëàòü ïðîäâèæåíèå ñâîåãî ñàéòà ïðåäëàãàþ ðàçìåñòèòü Âàøè ðåêëàìíûå îáúÿâëåíèÿ íà ðàçíûõ ñàéòàõ: = Ðàçìåñòèòü â àâòîìàòè÷åñêîì ðåæèìå íà 20 òûñ.äîñîê 100$ .Ññûëîê â ßíäåêñå ïîÿâèòñÿ îêîëî 11 òûñÿ÷ ýòî äîïîëíèòåëüíî äàñò ïîñåòèòåëåé èç êàòàëîãà ßíäåêñ è ïî áîëüøåìó êîëè÷åñòâó êëþ÷åâûõ ñëîâ ÷òî äàñò åùå áîëüøèé ýôôåêò. = Àâòî ðàçìåùåíèå íà 150 òûñ. ôîðóìîâ 50$ óêàçàíîå Êîëè÷åñòâî ñàéòîâ èìååòñÿ â âèäó êîëè÷åñòâî óñïåøíûõ ðåãèñòðàöèé, à íå âñÿ áàçà. e-mail: rew8@inbox.ru = Ðçìåñòèòü âðó÷íóþ íà 3 òûñÿ÷è èíòåðíåò-äîñîê 100$, ïîñëå ðàññûëêè ïðèøëþ áàçó ññûëîê êóäà ðàçìåñòèë ðåêëàìó. Åñëè òðåáóåòñÿ àêòèâèðîâàòü ïî email ýòî òîæå äåëàåòñÿ.Ðàçìåùàþ â ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèå ðàçäåëû ñ âûáîðîì íà êàêîé ñðîê. = Ðó÷íàÿ íà ñàéòû ñ âûñîêèì òèö 100 $ îò÷åòû ïðåäîñòàâëþ E-mail: wel10@bk.ru
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newlabt @ 2010-08-30 14:00:26Ïðåëàãàþ ðàñûëêè ðåêëàìíûõ îáúÿâëåíèé â èíòåðíåòå: -- Ðàçîñëàòü íà 3000 äîñîê áåñïëàòíûõ îáúÿâëåíèé âðó÷íóþ 100$ ïîñëå ðàññûëêè ïîëó÷èòå îò÷åò â âèäå áàçû ññûëîê. -- Àâòîìàòè÷åñêàÿ ðàññûëêà íà 20000 èíòåðíåò-äîñîê, ïðèìåðíî 12 òûñÿ÷ ñûëîê â ßíäåêñå 100$ -- Íà 170 òûñ. ôîðóìîâ 50$ -- Íà ëþáûå ñàéòû ïîä çàêàç 100$ çà 1000 ñàéòîâ, ñáîð âõîäèò â ñòîèìîñòü, áàçó îòäàþ Âàì -- Ðàçîñëàòü íà 20000 äîñîê áåñïëàòíûõ îáúÿâëåíèé âðó÷íóþ 500$ ïîñëå ðàññûëêè ïîëó÷èòå îò÷åò â âèäå áàçû ññûëîê. -- Ñáîð áàç ïîòåíöèàëüíûõ êëèåíòîâ (url, e-mail, òåëåôîíû è äð.) 100$ çà 1000 -- Ñáîð "ñûðûõ" áàç (ïàðñèíã) 10$ çà 10 òûñÿ÷ âûñîêàÿ ñêîðîñòü. E-mail: vert7@list.ru
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falvepns @ 2010-09-01 08:02:14Ïðåëàãàåì ðó÷íîå è àòîìàòè÷åñêîå ðàçìåùåíèå ðåêëàìû â èíòåðíåòå: E-mail: sar359@yandex.ua -íà 3òûñ. áåñïëàòíûõ èíòåðíåò-äîñîê îáúÿâëåíèé 100 $ .Ýòî ðó÷íîå ðàçìåùåíèå â ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèå ðàçäåëû è âûáîðîì íà êàêîé ñðîê, ïîñëå ðàçìåùåíèÿ ïîëó÷èòå îò÷åò â âèäå áàçû ññûëîê.Ãäå íóæíî äåëàåòñÿ àêòèâàöèÿ ïî e-mail -Àâòîìàòè÷åñêàÿ ðàññûëêà íà 20òûñ. èíòåðíåò-äîñîê,â ßíäåêñå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ïðèìåðíî 12òûñ.ññûëîê 100 $ -àâòîìàòè÷åñêîå ðàçìåùåíèå íà 180 òûñ. ôîðóìîâ 70 $ -ðó÷íîå ðàçìåùåíèå Íà ëþáûå ñàéòû 100 $ çà 1000 ñàéòîâ, ñáîð ñàéòîâ âõîäèò â ñòîèìîñòü, ñîáðàíóþ áàçó îòäàåì Âàì -ðàçìåñòèòü íà 20òûñ. äîñîê áåñïëàòíûõ îáúÿâëåíèé âðó÷íóþ 500$ ïîñëå ðàçìåùåíèÿ âûñûëàåòñÿ îò÷åò â âèäå áàçû ññûëîê êóäà ðàçìåñòèëè ðåêëàìó. -Ñáîðàòü áàçó ïîòåíöèàëüíûõ êëèåíòîâ (url, e-mail, òåëåôîíû è äð.) 100$ çà 1000
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